The Electrical Properties Of Interfacial Water


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At the 2018 Energy Science & Technology Conference, Dr. Gerald Pollack who is a professor at the University of Washington presented on the 4th Phase of Water. This is considered to be some of the most authoritative and advanced science in the world of subtle energy research dealing with water.

Dr. Kurt Kung attended the University of Washington and worked closely with Dr. Pollack who was his advisor at the time and currently, they are partners in ongoing water research and technologies. So if you are looking for more authoritative information on methods to measure subtle energy changes in water, this is the presentation for you.

Energy Harvesting From Water

Dr. Kung starts with an overview of some of his work with EZ water, which is the 4th Phase of Water known as “Exclusion Zone” water, which you would be familiar with if you studied Dr. Pollack’s work. This is what Dr. Kung is referring to when he is discussing the properties of Interfacial Water and its net negative charge.

The charge separation that happens when this EZ water is produced is very important because there are two very different types of water that are in close proximity to each other and they do not mix. Therefore, there is a high and low potential or dipole that is formed directly in the water.

What that means is that you can literally create a battery using one source of water that is simply in contact with a hydrophilic surface, which in turn creates the EZ water separation – if you have two potential differences in that water, then you have a battery. That in fact is what Dr. Kung did – by stringing a bunch of those water cells in series, he was able to light an LED to prove the point. It is a ways off before this is something that can produce large amounts of power, but it is in its infancy and is a profound discovery.


This measures the dielectric constant of any liquid whether it is liquid or not. Dr. Kung covers the device that does this, which is small and compact and has a differential mode so you can compare a control sample of water for example compared to another one, which you are experimenting on.


This is a relatively new approach developed by a doctor in Japan, which is based on the idea that anything that goes into or by water will cause the water to mimic it. This method is non-invasive and is so quick that you can get a data point in just a few minutes!

This one in particular is revealing some drastic differences between EZ water and the control. When you see the chart, it is mind-blowing and opens up a simple and fast way to see subtle changes in water.

The presentation then finishes with a brief Q&A with a question and comment by Dr. James DeMeo who also presents at Dr. Pollack’s water conferences in Bulgaria.

Part of the 2019 Energy Science & Technology Conference series (55 mins downloadable video).


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